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Corpius  
#181 Posted : Sunday, April 7, 2013 6:10:47 PM(UTC)
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My pleasure.
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#182 Posted : Monday, April 8, 2013 7:35:31 AM(UTC)
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My pleasure.


I dont seem to have a lot of luck asking questions on your site

I was wondering, with the signal board you have 2x DC+ on each DC In & Out, why is that?



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#183 Posted : Monday, April 8, 2013 9:15:00 AM(UTC)
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DC power out is used to drive the relay, but it can also be used for other applications if one wants or needs that. That why the relay and AC power connections board is more or less a separate board. The main reason the board can be separated is to keep the AC lines away from the signal lines.

Please do contact me on my email address (info at ce-designs dot net) for such questions.

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#184 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:11:01 AM(UTC)
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This is what has distracted me from this project, my sons sub.

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#185 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:48:12 AM(UTC)
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Nice and sleek design. Was it a kit or your own design?
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#186 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:06:33 AM(UTC)
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Nice and sleek design. Was it a kit or your own design?


It was based on a design by Joe Rasmussen, http://www.customanalogue.com/sub_index.htm, but as you will see, it is very different. My sons sub is powered by a Icepower amp that's been setup in BTL mode and of course has the signal switching in it as well. I built both my kids Icepower based amps & included a MiniDSP 4 way in each amp so it could drive the subs. My sons sub ( I built one for my daughter previously) is styled to match the 3 way speakers I built him for his 18th. The speakers are built from plywood (curved top & sides) then there is a layer of timber approx 4mm thick laminated to the exterior, it's a huge amount of work, I wouldn't recommend it.

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#187 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:55:55 PM(UTC)
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I have been having issues with the DAC turning itself on and off, it has a life of it's own. I thought it may not be a bad idea to smooth the supply coming from the SMPS that runs the MEGA. The supply is a XP Power SMPS ECE10US12

The SMPS manufactures says the maximum capacitance the SMPS should see is 550uF. I am not sure what would be the best configuration to smooth the supply (no need to get carried away :)) I have done some reading but am still lost in the woods.

Can anyome recommend a simple setup, if I used a CRC & say had 250uF for each C what should the R be? bearing in mind the supply is 12v & has limited current & I cannot afford to loose too much of either.

I would attach the SMPS data sheet but couldn't work out how to do it.
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#188 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 5:20:20 PM(UTC)
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Why not use a simple linear 5V power supply that makes use of a 7808 voltage regulator? They are cheap and reliable. You could could also use a LM317 instead. That would even allow you to adjust the voltage.

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#189 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:45:53 AM(UTC)
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Why not use a simple linear 5V power supply that makes use of a 7808 voltage regulator? They are cheap and reliable. You could could also use a LM317 instead. That would even allow you to adjust the voltage.

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The SMPS is already installed, it takes up very little room, once the isolators are installed it will be isolated from the BIII, it will be on 24/7 & uses very little power on standby. I really cant see a reason not to use it :)

The SMPS is probably not causing the issue, I just thought smoothing the supply wouldn't hurt, if only I knew somebody who could explain the formula to me, all I need is a capacitor, resistor & small inductor, should have paid more attention at school, nobody told me this stuff would become useful later in life :)

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#190 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:06:27 PM(UTC)
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Finally got the rebuild started.

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#191 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM(UTC)
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Finally I have managed to get the DAC inverted so the screen is the right way up. I took the opportunity to tidy up the layout a little bit, do a few mods & try and improve the wiring.

Everything seems to be working EXCEPT, why is there always an EXCEPTBrick wall , It's not a biggy really just annoying. The lock LED it's working, not even a flicker, but I seem to be getting a good solid lock as I am getting good solid music.

I made the overall board a bit bigger which meant I had to change the wires that ran to the LOCK & MUTE LED's. I had all sorts of problems getting the solder out of the BIII LED connections & am wondering if I have cooked a trace, what's the likely hood of that happening, anyone know?

There's no voltage at the BIII LOCK LED output when the music is playing, The Mute light still works.

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#192 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:54:22 PM(UTC)
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If I have cooked the LOCK LED trace, is there another way to get at the LOCK signal?
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#193 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 12:07:37 AM(UTC)
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Is it possible the LED is just backward? Or is possible it is also just needs to be replaced.
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#194 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 12:08:25 AM(UTC)
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BTW - You did a great job on those speakers. :)
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#195 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 1:33:59 AM(UTC)
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Is it possible the LED is just backward? Or is possible it is also just needs to be replaced.


I checked the continuity, LED polarity and then I checked if there was voltage at the LOCK LED output on the board, there is no voltage at the LOCK LED output from the board when I have music playing.

I then turned the music off and the MUTE LED came on and there was approx 1.9v at the MUTE LED output on the board.
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#196 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 1:42:11 AM(UTC)
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If the LED has gone bad as a short you would get no voltage.
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#197 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 1:44:26 AM(UTC)
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BTW - You did a great job on those speakers. :)


Thanks, my own speakers are a bit different, not to everybody's taste, although they ended up looking better than I expected. I'll post a picture later, for those who may be interested.

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#198 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 10:03:01 AM(UTC)
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I replaced the LED but no go I'm afraid. Still got music just no flashy light :(

And there is another issueWhistle

As will see in the photo I have 2 SPDIF inputs going to the OTTO, lets say Input 1 & Input 2. When I plug my Squeezebox to Input 1, I get music, then I switch between the inputs I get music out of both (but one switch position has a better lock the other drops out), ok maybe the switching isn't working, here's the rub, then I plug my Squeezebox into Input 2 I still get music, which shouldn't be happening if the switch is not working!!.

Any ideas what might be causing this issue

I haven't tried connecting another source & play both at once to see what happens.


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#199 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 10:59:37 AM(UTC)
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I hope I'm not boring you with the photo's, one of the things I always wonder when I'm on this site is, all of these DIY guy's have built these great DAC's I wonder what speakers they use with their DAC's, I love looking at other peoples DIY projects.

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#200 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 1:43:36 PM(UTC)
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It sounds like the Lock LED is not being driven.

A couple of possibilities:

1) Dead lock output (not very likely) at the DAC.
2) Maybe a bad solder joint at the lock pin at the DAC? Carefully touch this with a good soldering iron should clear that up.
3) Maybe a bad solder joint at the resistor between the output and the LED.

I don't think your source problem lies at the switch - since when you swapped inputs the problem stays with one source. I would just open up the DPLL a bit.

Cheers!
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