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kjetinho  
#41 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 6:27:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: avr300 Go to Quoted Post
Jobs done to the BP as well.

Flat line output now. This is a really important update.


Does this apply to the Placid BP V. 2.1.2 as well? And if so, do you know where to cut the trace?
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#42 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 6:45:17 PM(UTC)
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Nope, only the HD version(s).

edit: Because the non-HD versions is not affected by this.

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#43 Posted : Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:37:14 PM(UTC)
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For us who don't want to cut the trace,,,,,,,we use a bigger trafo and a bigger Mundorf cap 22 or 33000uf on Placid HD.

Believe me, it works.
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#44 Posted : Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:59:39 PM(UTC)
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Yes that will indeed.
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:38:12 AM(UTC)
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I use choke input supplies to feed rectified dc to Placid HDs
250va x-formers
sounds terriffic!
best
Leif

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DQ828  
#46 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:40:46 AM(UTC)
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So should all Placid HD owners be doing this?

I have had serious trouble with your site in the last couple of days & for that matter a lot of US sites I visit, even from my work computer same issue, really slow, dropping out etc.
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#47 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:07:28 PM(UTC)
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It's completely optional. But its a fun mod if you feel like doing it. :)
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#48 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:32:44 PM(UTC)
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Try it - and listen <big smile>
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#49 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:39:17 AM(UTC)
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Hi avr300!

Could you please summarize which changes you've made, apart from cutting the trace and adding resistor and cap to QP7/QP8 emitters?

Reason why I'm asking, is because I too saw Placid ripple on my old soviet oscilloscope. And after adding the cap and resistor to emitters and cutting the trace, the ripple was still there.

After reading through this topic again, I see that C2 and C3 should be changed to some higher value, correct?
Anything else maybe?

Thanks,
Fedor

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#50 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:55:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fred_com Go to Quoted Post
Hi avr300!


Reason why I'm asking, is because I too saw Placid ripple on my old soviet oscilloscope. And after adding the cap and resistor to emitters and cutting the trace, the ripple was still there.



Thanks,
Fedor



Don't tell me that, I just finished the mod :)

Is this what we are suppose to do?

I don't have a Scope to check it :(

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fred_com  
#51 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:21:45 PM(UTC)
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Yes, that's exactly how I did it too (only difference is I connected negative cap side to the MOSFET ground).
I guess we need to wait for avr300 or Russ (if he's checking forum while on vacation) to clarify that :)
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#52 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:10:06 PM(UTC)
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Hi guys..

It looks very reasonable.

You have to check for ripple across C2 and C3 (C3 @ BP version). I have increased both C2 and C3 to 470uF.

Once C2 and C3 are clean, and you have done the decoupling of the supply to the error amplifier, things starts to sing ;-)

(you really can't do this kind of mods without an oscilloscope, you have to be able to see what's going on)

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#53 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:05:51 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the answer, avr.

I took another look at the new schematic that Russ posted, and noticed that he used 100uF for C2 and C3. I had plenty of caps with this value, so I exchanged film C2 and C3 with those electrolytics (observing the polarity).
After that I've checked V_REF, checked output - the ripple is gone!

Thanks Russ and avr!
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#54 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:36:53 PM(UTC)
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No need to go that high. Even 22uf will significantly reduce the ripple. :)
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#55 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:38:40 PM(UTC)
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The reason you don't want to go too high is that it will take a while for the voltages to come up to where they should be., it also leave a large current discharge on power down. Still if you be ok to go higher, but I would not go more than about 100uf.
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#56 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:38:42 PM(UTC)
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The reason you don't want to go too high is that it will take a while for the voltages to come up to where they should be., it also leave a large current discharge on power down. Still if you be ok to go higher, but I would not go more than about 100uf.
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#57 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:19:03 AM(UTC)
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I had some 25V 33uF capacitors laying around to use for C2 & C3.

I just wanted to check that I had the polarity correct for C2 before I install it, please see photo.

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Is there anything else I should do to the Placid HD before I fire it up again?

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avr300  
#58 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:42:45 AM(UTC)
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That's correct.

And no, that should be it. Enjoy the music.
luisbock  
#59 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:28:58 AM(UTC)
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Hi
I dont have a scope. Can the ripple problem be present with Placid HD, stock trannies and Buffalo 3 Standard build? Are there any diferent issues in avr300 setup to the present Buffalo 3 (non SE) build advice?
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fred_com  
#60 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 10:51:08 AM(UTC)
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Hi guys,

one note about this mod - when modding negative side of Placid HD BP polarities of electrolytic caps should be reversed (C2, C3 and the new one).
If polarity is not reversed - the negative side voltage will sag.

I don't know how this works, but I'm sure Russ will clarify this :)

Thanks,
Fedor
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