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cdeveza  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:29:38 PM(UTC)
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Russ/Brian, my first build. Buffalo IIIse, Placid HD, Toslink. These three I built and got it running. I also got an Amanero-Hermes-Cronus. Here is where my problem starts. I build it based on all the post here so far. Installed the Crystal and the resistors. Set the jumper to 1:2. Voltage at Cronos is 5.25v, connect DCK, D1, D2 to BIIIse, power connected, jumpered Ip_s. Connect USB cable to windows computer. Turn it on and I could not get a lock, NO LOCK. Tried everything, No Luck....I need some expert advice. Brick wall Brick wall

Will post pictures tonight when I get home from work.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 1:37:45 AM(UTC)
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Russ/Brian, here are the pictures of my build. I tried everything, with no luck, please help.


P1010587.JPG (245kb) downloaded 23 time(s). P1010590.JPG (209kb) downloaded 20 time(s). P1010591.JPG (193kb) downloaded 14 time(s). P1010594.JPG (157kb) downloaded 21 time(s). P1010588.JPG (263kb) downloaded 0 time(s). P1010592.JPG (177kb) downloaded 18 time(s). P1010595.JPG (182kb) downloaded 16 time(s). P1010597.JPG (126kb) downloaded 11 time(s). P1010601.JPG (168kb) downloaded 14 time(s). P1010593.JPG (73kb) downloaded 11 time(s). P1010600.JPG (181kb) downloaded 11 time(s). P1010602.JPG (157kb) downloaded 11 time(s). P1010603.JPG (151kb) downloaded 11 time(s). P1010606.JPG (117kb) downloaded 10 time(s). P1010605.JPG (133kb) downloaded 10 time(s). P1010608.JPG (164kb) downloaded 10 time(s). P1010607.JPG (170kb) downloaded 10 time(s). P1010609.JPG (131kb) downloaded 12 time(s). P1010604.JPG (149kb) downloaded 13 time(s). P1010598.JPG (179kb) downloaded 13 time(s). P1010599.JPG (212kb) downloaded 24 time(s). P1010611.JPG (149kb) downloaded 20 time(s). P1010613.JPG (107kb) downloaded 35 time(s). P1010617.JPG (236kb) downloaded 39 time(s). P1010614.JPG (149kb) downloaded 38 time(s). P1010621.JPG (230kb) downloaded 39 time(s). P1010619.JPG (302kb) downloaded 22 time(s).

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 5:19:44 AM(UTC)
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No signal gnd wire?
cdeveza  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:23:22 AM(UTC)
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The DAC and Cronus are sharing the same Placid HD. And I already tried connecting a separate ground wire from the Cronus to the one of the Ground input on the DAC and still No Lock. I will try again tomorrow.

How about the Switch settings? I read somewhere that on sw2:6, to turn off spdif, do I have to do that? I tried it and still no lock, so I turn it on again.

Something I dont quite get, people talk about reprogramming the Amanero, not that I have to, because I got the set from Twisted Pair, and it should have the right programming in it. Question is, how do you flash the Amanero? is there a jumper you have to set to do it? I see that there are pin and a jumper on the Amanero, but dont know what its for. If it is indeed for flashing, would it hurt the programming when I am running the unit with the jumper on it? I may have damage the program in it? Just a thought.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:59:00 PM(UTC)
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Something I dont quite get, people talk about reprogramming the Amanero, not that I have to, because I got the set from Twisted Pair, and it should have the right programming in it. Question is, how do you flash the Amanero? is there a jumper you have to set to do it? I see that there are pin and a jumper on the Amanero, but dont know what its for. If it is indeed for flashing, would it hurt the programming when I am running the unit with the jumper on it? I may have damage the program in it? Just a thought.


How to flash the Amanero is explained here: http://www.amanero.com/howto.htm

The right firmware with maintenance tools can be found here: http://www.amanero.com/combo384_firmware.htm

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cdeveza  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 3:21:45 PM(UTC)
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Thanks guys for your reply. I dont think I need to reflash Amanero. Any ideas what could be wrong with my build? Just dont know what to do at this point. Russ/Brian, anyone, I need some expert advice.

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Russ White  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 8:58:40 PM(UTC)
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Do you happen to have access to a scope?
cdeveza  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:06:16 PM(UTC)
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I do have a 20mhz Oscilloscope, but have to admit, have not used it much. I have the probe, but I need guidance in where in the Amanero to touch or check and what to expect. At the moment, I am using the Toslink, that was easy, but this cronos is something else. Ok, please, show me how to do it, I would appreciate it very much.

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Russ White  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:12:18 PM(UTC)
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Just curious - why do you have the jumper installed on P3 on the Amanero? It is only used to erase the firmware on the Amanero.

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cdeveza  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:17:33 PM(UTC)
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That was one of my question. After assembling it, my first try, I had it on, simply because I did not know what it is. Have no idea what that jumper is for. I am afraid that I may have erased the programming in the amanero. Did I? I have been reading all over the place, and never ran across on how to flash or erase for that matter the amanero, until someone responded to me on how to do it.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:27:36 PM(UTC)
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Yeah the Amanero site has it's own documentation. You likely need to reflash both the CPLD and CPU. Use the firmware indicated in the Hermes Amanero thread.

http://www.amanero.com/oemtool117.zip

View the readme and follow it carefully.

http://www.diyaudio.com/...cing-hermes-amanero.html

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:28:41 PM(UTC)
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When not programming the Amanero leave the P3 header completely open. It is only used for the erasing step

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cdeveza  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:39:29 PM(UTC)
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Oh Jezz, I knew it, I messed it up, Ok, I will do some reading and will try to reprogram them. One quick, do I need any special hardware to do this? or do I just use my computer and just connect the USB cable to the amanero? Shall I disconnect it from the DAC?

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Russ White  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 11:08:12 PM(UTC)
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You don't need anything special - just a USB cable. :)
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2016 11:29:46 PM(UTC)
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Great, Thanks
cdeveza  
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2016 6:47:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Russ White Go to Quoted Post
You don't need anything special - just a USB cable. :)


SUCCESS, I just reflashed my amanero, downloaded the driver, and I got music, beautiful music. Thanks Russ. Question, for input, I am only using the amanero combo and Toslink. I got the Toslink configured as TTL Spdif, can I switch between the two? if so how do I do it?

On the volume control, I know brian mentioned 2k to 10k is fine, I do have a motorized one, but its dual 50k, I can parallel them to have 25k, but it is an audio type not a linear type, question is will this work?

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Russ White  
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2016 12:39:00 PM(UTC)
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Excellent! Your pictures helped a lot.

Just setup the TOSLINK board for consumer output and use the normal B3SE spdif switching capability. There is only one downside to doing this - you must keep SPDIF auto-detect enabled on the B3SE which can sometimes cause random unlocks with very high rate I2S/DSD signals becuase it will get false positives that there is a SPDIF signal present. This generally only occurs above 192Khz.

The other approach is to use an OTTO-II and a SPDIF receiver. That way the DAC input itself only ever receives I2S/DSD and you can turn off the SPDIF auto-detect.

Cheers!
Russ
cdeveza  
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:14:09 PM(UTC)
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Thanks russ, I have to get the OTTO-II and a SPDIF receiver, I play very high rate, up to 384Khz, so I guess this is the way to go. Also, I will be building my other BIIIse, doing dual mono, what other issues will I have, knowing my only two input? I need to know before I order the OTTO-II and SPDIF receiver.

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#19 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:18:53 PM(UTC)
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Dual mono wiring can be tricky - proceed with care :) Teleporters and fully independent mono DACs can help here.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:12:06 PM(UTC)
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Ok, point taken. Will do more reading..

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