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Nescafe  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:18:51 AM(UTC)
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Hi,
I'm new here and need some guidance and suggestion before deciding DAC to build, about BIII:

1. What is the advantage of dual mono configuration over single stereo? What I will loss if I build a single stereo unit? Resolution, Separation, Headroom, S/N, THD? My application for the DAC is for home studio (DAW).

2. I see that the SE version have external clock option in the board, is that an input or output?

Thank You and any reply will be very appreciated
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:41:18 PM(UTC)
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I too need information as above; my aim is to have a highest quality simple stereo DAC.

Many thanks,

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LeonvB  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:49:09 PM(UTC)
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Dual mono has two advantages:
1. It gives you slightly better performance: THD, S/N.
2. Since you have 2 of just about everything, swapping out modules is much easier: you keep swapping modules left/right, as soon as the problem jumps to the other channel you've found the module that causes the problem.
Obvious disadvantages are:
- Cost
- Amount of work
- Complexity

The external clock connector can be used for both options, as mentioned on page 6 of the guide.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:14:51 PM(UTC)
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Hi Leon,

Thank You for the info, both for the clock and technical spec, really appreciate it, do You have any subjective personal opinions sound wise between single stereo and dual mono?

Thank You.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:51:03 PM(UTC)
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Stereo is good, but dual mono is better. It's a fairly obvious improvement, but then again it costs you about twice as much. For a single module you will be able to find commercial alternatives. But for dual mono? I've not been able to find a manufacturer that uses 2 ESS chips, 8 local shunt regulators (of which 2 dual), 4 shunt pre-regulators (2 single+2 bi-polar) and fi. 4 R-core transformers. And you can propably build the dual mono DAC for less than what a really good commercial stereo DAC would cost you.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:56:08 PM(UTC)
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I just powered up a dual mono setup BF3SE for the first time. This is one step ahead of everything I could listenned before.

About the price, yes, this is twice a stereo setup, but there is on top of that the pleasure to decide the hardware architecture in a way usual HiFi brands will not go (so far).
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#7 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:03:16 AM(UTC)
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I went from a single to dual mono BIII. IMO you don't get twice as good for near twice the expense but it's worthwhile.

My advice, use a single output board with dual mono. There are threads here that describe what to do with single IVY and Legato in dual mono setups. Single Legato with dual mono gives me discrete out balanced, SE and headphones out. Sounds really good with my Sennheiser 650's!

If playing DSD with a dual mono BIII, and I am guessing BIIISE, you'll have to use an OTTO to change input mapping or DSD will play in mono.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:33:49 PM(UTC)
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Some great advice on this thread. Thanks to all for replying.
Nescafe  
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:46:59 PM(UTC)
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Hi All,

Thank You for all the great advice!! This is the great support forum!
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 4, 2014 1:12:42 AM(UTC)
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My advice, use a single output board with dual mono. There are threads here that describe what to do with single IVY and Legato in dual mono setups.

Hi SCompRacer: Will you please post a high resolution photo of the wiring setup?

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:58:38 AM(UTC)
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I can't seem to link pics to this thread from my build thread so check post 71 and 75 in my build thread here in the Project Gallery. Post 71 shows the two short DAC board to Legato harnesses. The proper wiring is documented in the latest Integration guide as pos and neg reverse between R and L channel on each DAC board.


http://www.twistedpearau...enon-DVD-3910-Mod.aspx?=


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If you need more/better pics I can pull it out of the rack and take one.

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