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Dougie085  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:42:02 PM(UTC)
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Ok, I'm working on building a custom CarPC and setup in my car. I've been trying to figure out how to get a high quality DAC setup for my audio. The problem I'm having is trying to figure out how to get 4 channel output as well as a sub channel? The front end software I'll be using doesn't seem to have any settings for select specific output devices or ports for specific speakers? Is there a way I can do this in windows? I'd need to set one channel to SUB for sure otherwise I may not get any audio output on my sub channel at all? Trying to figure out how to do this.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:17:32 PM(UTC)
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To clarify, this would have to be through SPDIF I guess? Can the buffalo do 8 channel SPDIF? I was a bit confused by that part of the manual. Can you extract I2s from a sound card or something? Maybe I'm just crazy for even thinking about this.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:15:06 PM(UTC)
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No and no, as SPDIF is stereo only. TTL level PCM or DSD are the only methods for multi-channel sound. And yes: one can extract I2S from a soundcard. Some even have their interface on an expansion header.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:16:15 PM(UTC)
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Hmm, well then maybe it is possible off the soundcard then.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:26:51 PM(UTC)
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Ok, do you know of a thread with an example on getting I2S off a sound card? I need to figure out what the best sound card to get for this and what not. I'm going to look through some of these threads as well.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:13:19 AM(UTC)
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#7 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:41:43 AM(UTC)
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#8 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:48:11 AM(UTC)
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LeonvB wrote:
http://www.twistedpearaudio.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2184

Nice! So the Asus Xonar makes it quite easy for us! That's great news! I have new hope now :)
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#9 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:05:54 AM(UTC)
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Blah! I wish those cards were cheaper..... Is there a cheaper solution that's not crazy difficult? lol
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#10 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:52:36 AM(UTC)
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Amaro wrote:
Exadevices


The ExaU2I would be perfect, but it's 400 bucks.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:45:13 PM(UTC)
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Is it just a matter of taping the I2S pins on the DAC of a video card?

Like say this card
http://www.newegg.com/Pr...spx?Item=N82E16829102017

Uses the AKM4359VF which the datasheet can be found here?
http://html.alldatasheet...359VF/99/2/AK4359VF.html

If that's the case which of these pins would give me all 8 channels and how would I connect them to a buffalo?
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#12 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:31:28 PM(UTC)
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See page 4 of the datasheet and then read the guide for the B3, chapter "Connecting sources directly to the DAC board". It's all there.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:32:12 PM(UTC)
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Ok I think I figured out WHICH points I'd need to tap, the question I have now though is if just the 4 wires will do all 8 channels? or do I need to get more?

According to the manual "Note: If not using Sidecar but using stereo PCM D2-D5 should be joined via the PCM jumpers.". Does that mean in a multi-channel setup D2-D5 would all have a connection for each speaker?
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#14 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:52:52 PM(UTC)
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You need all 7 wires for 8 channel.
You want multi-channel, not stereo. So that line does not apply to you.

A warning: this will not be a cheap nor a small project. I would suggest reading the BOM at the end of the manual and making a quick shopping list. If you think a Xonar is expensive: it will get worse.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:07:07 PM(UTC)
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Oh I know how much the DAC will cost, just didn't want to spend that much just to get I2s out of the pc. I built a dual mono opus previously.
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#16 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 9:02:13 AM(UTC)
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Do you have to use IVY stages with the B3? I'm not entirely sure what an IVY stage is for but reading over the manual it says for multichannel you need 4 of them? I don't need 8 channels I just need 5 so would I need 4? In fact I'm thinking of making just 4 channels, if I could use 3 outputs on the L/R channels and 2 outputs on the sub channel I think I may go that route and maybe use one of my Opus modules for the rear or something possibly. If it's possible to setup the outputs this way anyways.
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#17 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 10:41:30 AM(UTC)
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No, you could also use Legato stages. For every 2 channels you need one. For 5 you would need 3 of them (and 6 I2S wires).
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#18 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 11:19:53 AM(UTC)
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So if I were going to do 3 channels I only need 2 and 4 i2s wires.
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#19 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 11:40:54 AM(UTC)
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No, you would need 2 I/V stages and 5 wires. For I2S you have GND, DCK and D1 as basic wires, plus 1 data wire for each 2 channels.
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#20 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 11:58:21 AM(UTC)
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Oh ok that makes sense. I think the rear channels I'd just run off the sound card cause they don't get used much anyways.
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