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patrocle  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:28:03 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

I'm stuck with the Placid HD BIPOLAR Think

It only give me 5V out whatever I do with VR2...
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I surely made a mistake but can't find what & where.

So let's start with the begining : Power Supply .
I have this R-core transformer (30VA with 2 secondary at 15V) and here is how I wire this :


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then the measurements values:

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Can anyone help me ?

Thanks

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:50:23 AM(UTC)
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Hmmm. That is strange indeed. :) This would tend to indicate that the pot is stuck at the highest (or close) resistance. It is possible to damage the pot by over-adjusting it (it can distort the wiper). You have a couple of options.

Make sure VR2A is well soldered. Give VR2A a few flicks with your finger. Try to adjust it again.

If you find you still can't adjust it then it may be time to replace it, or even better I would just not use VR2 to set your voltage by removing them and use fixed resistors there instead.

If you are shooting for +/-~15V you could use ~750R instead of the pots. If you are shooting for +/-~12V try ~931R

Cheers!
Russ

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Russ White  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:41:55 PM(UTC)
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It looks like based on you rectified voltage of about 16V your not going to be able to get 15V output I would shoot for 12-13V depending on what you are powering.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:43:11 PM(UTC)
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Good pictures BTW. Very helpful.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:56:52 AM(UTC)
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Thank you very much for your answers !

This Placid BP is for powering an IVY III stage.

I re-soldered the VR2, nothing changed, and did I mentioned that the problem is the same on the other rail?

Anyway, I've ordered 750R resistors that I should receive tomorrow.

In the meantime, I've made some new pictures, maybe your fresh and expert look will see something obvious that I don't !d'oh! d'oh!


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thanks again !

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:49:26 AM(UTC)
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Another thing :
I was looking at the Schema and figure out that C4 have a 220nF value, but in the kit I've received, C4 components have a value of 0.1uF (received 2 pairs by the way :)

Might this be a problem ?

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thank you !

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:53:27 AM(UTC)
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Just a problem in the schematic :). Either value is fine.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:56:45 AM(UTC)
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Not so much a problem. But clearly a difference. As Brian said either value is perfectly fine there. :)

The schematic is how the cct was designed, but for some parts a range of values is just fine. For that spot .1uf is just as good as .22uf. :)

We will edit the schematic to reflect what is actually supplied though, for consistency sake. :)

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Russ White  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:07:18 AM(UTC)
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You can check if the VR2 pots are working correctly by measuring the resistance across them with the power off and adjusting. If you are getting the full range of adjustment then the problem is elsewhere.

I would double check that all of the transistors are the correct part in the correct spot. :)

Cheers!
Russ
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:11:42 AM(UTC)
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OK thanks,
as you can see on previous pictures, I've adjusted VR2 to be at 750R ( power off) and have no problem of getting full range of adjustment.
I've already double check each transistor, I'll doing it again and take pictures.

Thanks again for your help
Russ White  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:15:20 AM(UTC)
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Hmm what I saw there looked like a voltage reading of 7.50V Not a resistance reading of 750 ohms.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:21:46 AM(UTC)
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:27:04 AM(UTC)
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Ah I see. Very good thanks! Just double checking.

The next thing to do will be to confirm that there are no incorrect part values in any spots. Compare what is installed to the schematic.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:34:44 AM(UTC)
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Actually wouldn't that be a reading of 7.5K?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:04:35 AM(UTC)
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When I told you "something obvious that I don't see"...

THANK YOU YOU'RE a GENIUS !!!Applause Applause Applause Applause

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:12:36 AM(UTC)
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All is well that ends well. :)

I wouldn't have been able to help if you had not provided good information. This thread should be a lesson to others on how to get help on trouble shooting issues. :)

BTW based on your rectified voltage of around 15-16V I would shoot for 12-13V not 15. You will not have enough headroom for good regulation if you try to go higher than 14V.

Cheers!
Russ

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:23:54 AM(UTC)
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thanks for the compliment :)

And Except I'm now around 25V with the right configuration onboard, So I think I can go for 15vout ?

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:59:33 AM(UTC)
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Absolutely. You have more than enough headroom now. :) 2-3V headroom is all that is really needed for excellent regulation.

Cheers!
Russ

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patrocle  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:35:23 AM(UTC)
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GREAT ! thank you

Last question of the day (I hope, doesn't want to monopolize your time):
I have 3 IVY III stages, do I need 3 PLACID BP or can I use just this one set at 150mA*3 = 450mA ?

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#20 Posted : Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:17:14 AM(UTC)
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From the pictures it looks like you have a HD version, it should be ok to power up to 4 IVY3's according to Russ.
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