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Steelcity5  
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:53:51 PM(UTC)
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Can any specifics or documentation be provided at this time for the Buffalo III?
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#2 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 9:49:24 AM(UTC)
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What specifics you need?
Steelcity5  
#3 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 11:21:11 AM(UTC)
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Primarily, what changes and/or improvements have been implemented.
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#4 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 12:00:57 PM(UTC)
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I am in the process of writing up all the details of the B3 for the web page. I should have that posted, as well as the sale dates, in the next few days.
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#5 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 2:13:27 PM(UTC)
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Primarily, what changes and/or improvements have been implemented.

The basics are simple: except for the 9018 chip itself and some connectors like the PSU & I2S connector almost everything has changed.

Some of the more prominent changes:
- Tridents are now the default local regulators.
- the board is bigger (but the holes are identical, so it still stacks on top of an IVY3/Legato)
- the board is more flexible: 1 to 8 channel output, 8 inputs
- the volumite is now on-board
- there are more switches, so more settings can be changed on-board
- there is an I/O connector to control all settings
- the on-board comparator is gone, you need a new optional module to convert consumer level SPDIF to TTL level.

All in all it's quite an upgrade from the BII, and although I don't know for sure my guess is that for most people this version will be quite an improvement if they still run the original BII without the Trident upgrade. And for those new to TPA: this version will propably be more cost efficient than a BII + Tridents + Mux + Volumite, which likely is one of the most popular combo's.
Russ White  
#6 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 2:31:10 PM(UTC)
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Good summary Leon, but don't forget that the PCB routing and layout is improved as well. :)
Steelcity5  
#7 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 2:44:01 PM(UTC)
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Excellent. Thanks!
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#8 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 3:20:53 PM(UTC)
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Ok... Now I have two BII for sale with Tridents... Liar

Just kidding!!!

This will be really amazing!

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#9 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 3:22:31 PM(UTC)
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Where are those BIII pics you had posted a while ago? Does anyone still has the URL?

Thanks
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LeonvB  
#10 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 3:31:09 PM(UTC)
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don't forget that the PCB routing and layout is improved

I didn't forget, but rather swept it under "almost everything has changed". :D
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#11 Posted : Friday, July 8, 2011 8:04:25 PM(UTC)
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There was one early BIII picture posted back in May in diyaudio forums - Buffalo III - flexibility without compromise!

Have fun!
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#12 Posted : Saturday, July 9, 2011 1:46:43 AM(UTC)
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then, the trident are integrated or purchased separately?.

There will be a combo purchase with the new module is needed?


Br
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#13 Posted : Saturday, July 9, 2011 3:14:49 AM(UTC)
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They are not integrated. There will be a combo which includes them. You will also be able to buy the Buffalo w/o regs if you want to try something else.
karvid  
#14 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:51:05 PM(UTC)
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LeonvB wrote:
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Primarily, what changes and/or improvements have been implemented.

The basics are simple: except for the 9018 chip itself and some connectors like the PSU & I2S connector almost everything has changed.

Some of the more prominent changes:
- Tridents are now the default local regulators.
- the board is bigger (but the holes are identical, so it still stacks on top of an IVY3/Legato)
- the board is more flexible: 1 to 8 channel output, 8 inputs
- the volumite is now on-board
- there are more switches, so more settings can be changed on-board
- there is an I/O connector to control all settings
- the on-board comparator is gone, you need a new optional module to convert consumer level SPDIF to TTL level.

All in all it's quite an upgrade from the BII, and although I don't know for sure my guess is that for most people this version will be quite an improvement if they still run the original BII without the Trident upgrade. And for those new to TPA: this version will propably be more cost efficient than a BII + Tridents + Mux + Volumite, which likely is one of the most popular combo's.


Perhaps people that don't want the volumite, only uses 2 channel and uses SPDIF won't see this as an upgrade...
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#15 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:53:32 PM(UTC)
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Correct. For them it will be a Buffalo-II with Tridents, and optionally a 4-1 S/PDIF MUX.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:33:24 PM(UTC)
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karvid wrote:
LeonvB wrote:
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Primarily, what changes and/or improvements have been implemented.

The basics are simple: except for the 9018 chip itself and some connectors like the PSU & I2S connector almost everything has changed.

Some of the more prominent changes:
- Tridents are now the default local regulators.
- the board is bigger (but the holes are identical, so it still stacks on top of an IVY3/Legato)
- the board is more flexible: 1 to 8 channel output, 8 inputs
- the volumite is now on-board
- there are more switches, so more settings can be changed on-board
- there is an I/O connector to control all settings
- the on-board comparator is gone, you need a new optional module to convert consumer level SPDIF to TTL level.

All in all it's quite an upgrade from the BII, and although I don't know for sure my guess is that for most people this version will be quite an improvement if they still run the original BII without the Trident upgrade. And for those new to TPA: this version will propably be more cost efficient than a BII + Tridents + Mux + Volumite, which likely is one of the most popular combo's.


Perhaps people that don't want the volumite, only uses 2 channel and uses SPDIF won't see this as an upgrade...



While you are correct in that many people with Buffalo II won't really want or need to upgrade at all, I would say many will because you also get these features:

1) A better layout.
2) More complete control options (more access to registers via the on board switches)
3) More flexibility should your sources change in the future.

Cheers!
Russ
toast  
#17 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:47:50 PM(UTC)
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How will the duo mono configuration with all these new features?
Thanks.
LeonvB  
#18 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 10:45:35 AM(UTC)
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Perhaps people that don't want the volumite, only uses 2 channel and uses SPDIF won't see this as an upgrade...

Believe me, upgrading to Tridents IS an upgrade. And a worthwhile upgrade IMO.

Plus some users will want to upgrade from the 80 to the 100Mhz clock module, and like Russ stated: it also offers more control over the registers. Buying a set of Tridents plus an AC2 would of course also provide most of the upgrade and the control to owners of a BII, but since that last part isn't available (hint, hint) many will opt for a BIII.

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How will the duo mono configuration with all these new features?

I think most of the basics in the BII manual will also apply to the BIII. And by this I mean the BIII still has the same I/O, there's just more pins you can connect. Also there's still an I2S connector for setting the registers, including volume.
But there will be much more possible with this board, and though I don't know the details of how the board works or what which switch does I can already tell you the guide will get thicker (a lot). I'll get working on it again if I get more information from Brian and/or Russ. Right now however they seem to be quite busy putting the hardware together.
toast  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:10:44 AM(UTC)
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Which power supply is best match for BIII?
LeonvB  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:06:35 AM(UTC)
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My vote goes to the LCDPS. Placing 2 shunt regulators behind eachother would not result in a benefit. Plus you'd have the other half remaining for things like the Mux, Toslink, etc.
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