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palmito  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:37:57 PM(UTC)
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Hi. I have a Buffalo IIISE connected to an Ian FIFO and under arduino control. It was working great and sounding better than great in async mode. I wanted to try sync mode and unsoldered the XO reg to stop powering the clock. I had a bit of a hard time removing the reg and I think I may have damaged something.

After removing the XO reg and hooking up the MCK of the FIFO's clock (Si570) the dac stopped producing sound. The lock and mute lights are both on. The display shows the lock frequency to be either 192 or 176 and moves between the two. However, I'm only playing 44/48 material. Before removing the reg in async mode the display showed the correct lock speed.

I put back the reg and removed the MCK u.fl cable, but now the dac behaves the same way as above in , lock and mute lights are on but lock speed displayed is 176 or 192 and no music plays. The XO reg (and the other two regs) show their leds lighted and appear to be working correctly.

So, it seems pretty certain I've damaged something. Is there anything I should check first that might account for this kind of behavior? Also, if I can't fix it, do you offer a repair service for the IIISE board (for pay of course) when the user has inflicted the wound on the device?

I was going to post on the BIII thread at diyaudio, but thought it might be more proper to post the question here. Many thanks in advance and a Merry Christmas to anyone who reads this post!
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#2 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:46:04 AM(UTC)
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I have never seen such behaviour - unfortunately your probably right that somehow you damaged the chip in your modifications. We don't really do repairs as it is not something we are really equipped to handle efficiently, but if it is only the chip that is bad, they are fairly easy to obtain, and there are places that could do the rework for you.

Sorry for your misfortune.

Cheers!
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#3 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the quick answer Russ. I will get a new es9018 chip and see if I can fix it.

When I said I had problems removing the XO reg I meant it was stubborn and I may have overheated some parts when trying to desolder it. But the XO Trident seems to be ok and the es9018 chip is fairly distant from the Trident pins, so I had hopes it was not the damaged item.

Can I ask if there's a chance that I damaged the XO and it is somehow interfering even if it's not powered? I have not removed the XO but was thinking of doing that to see if it has any effect. But if you think it's unlikely, I won't bother.

If I get a new IIISE, is there any possibility of getting it with the XO uninstalled (just included as a loose item with the dac board)?

Frankie
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#4 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:20:53 PM(UTC)
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Check to see if you are getting 3.3V at the XO pin.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:22:17 PM(UTC)
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Took the XO out, no change.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 4:46:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brian Donegan Go to Quoted Post
Check to see if you are getting 3.3V at the XO pin.


Thanks Brian. I'm getting 0v at that pin and 1.5v at the pin below that. This is off the XO pads, since I removed the XO and its Trident reg.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:51:21 PM(UTC)
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Is the trident putting out 3.3V?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:49:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Russ White Go to Quoted Post
Is the trident putting out 3.3V?


Yes, 3.30v out on 5.27v in.
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#9 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 3:59:21 AM(UTC)
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That could indicate a broken trace, or a bad joint on the supply pin to the XO.
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#10 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 3:28:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Russ White Go to Quoted Post
That could indicate a broken trace, or a bad joint on the supply pin to the XO.


Sorry Russ, I'm a bit dense at times... I measured the voltages at the XO pins without the XO Trident. With the XO Trident (which I'm sure is what you wanted me to measure) it's 3.31v . Sorry about that.

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