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Which resistors have the most impact on sound on IVY?
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I'd like to change some resistors to try out but don't know which resistors are actually the most critical to change.
I'm using the SE output for now but will use balanced shortly.
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I just want to put in some more exotic resistors to tune sound output.
Please!
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I think you'd be better off matching the value of the resistors (between the + and the - leg). The common mode rejection of the balanced configuration will increase if the matching is closer...
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All the resistors in the kit (apart from the 22R output resistors) are 0.1% matched.
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Okidoki!
I will stick with original design. It is quite good as it is anyway!
Thanks Do
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Brian Donegan wrote:All the resistors in the kit (apart from the 22R output resistors) are 0.1% matched. I was thinking matching the .1% resistors to get better than .1% matching. According to http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/sloa054d/sloa054d.pdf (p.6) you get 60 db CMRR with .1% matching. If you can match to .01% (with a good voltmeter) you can get better than 60 db...
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You actually get more than enough CMRR with .1% for this application, though to be sure the more the better. Just not likely to produce tangible results in this case.
This is actually one of those things that is very easy to simulate.
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How important is CMRR? Surely with well designed shunt regulated supplies noise is going to be well down anyway. Some say the best resistors are non-magnetic. I'm guessing the resistors supplied probably are not. I have used the older Holco's in my amp to good effect and they are not expensive. When Meggit Holsworthy were taken over the end caps were changed to steel which made them magnetic and sound quality suffered. Hificollective.co.uk have a limited supply of the old Holco's and I would like to build IVY-III using these but would have to change values to the following
R1-4 1k2 1% (=750x1.6) R5-12 560R 1% (=390Rx1.4) R13-16 270R 1% (=180Rx1.5) R17-24 3k3 0.25% (=2k2x1.5) C1-4 10nf
The new values are roughly 1.5 times those specified, or do you think I would be better sticking to 0.1%
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