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koersel  
#1 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 3:34:38 AM(UTC)
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Hi

Finished my b32s, very easy to assemble.
I cut the traces near the outputs.
I am using the balanced outputs into my preamp.

First time power on, no lock. aha, swiched spdif on and there is lock.
music appears, always good, but left channel is much softer then the right channel. Ajusted the balance and it does sound very good straigt out of the box.

took it on the bench again and measured the output resistance, all 22 ohms, so the traces have been cut properly!!.

Measured the outputs while powered and there is a 0,5 v dc on the left channel + to agnd and - to agnd while there is none on the right channel.

Not going to connect it again untill this is fixed.

Since i am a noob in these matteres i don't know what is going on, so a little help here would be appriciated.

Thanks in advance
John


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#2 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 1:48:20 PM(UTC)
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Can you send pics of the top and bottom of the board please? What version is the board?
koersel  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:14:09 AM(UTC)
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Send the pictures to you per email.
The board is a version 1.1

John
Russ White  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:14:47 PM(UTC)
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John the problem is almost definitely the missing R20.
koersel  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:08:42 PM(UTC)
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Could you tell me the value of this resistor, since there is no scematic?
same as the other side perhaps?

John.

Oops should have read my email first!!.

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koersel  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:51:49 PM(UTC)
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Ok so there was just 1 resistor missing, fixed it and it is playing nicely.

Thanks Russ for the help.

Can't comment to much on the sound yet, it will have break in first.

John
snjsk  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:53:17 AM(UTC)
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I have the same 1.1 version board. I'm connecting the I2S from Cd pro2 which worked fine with the OPUS/Metronome setup earlier.

When i put in the board (It was lying unpacked for a few months now..), i get a "loud hiss" sound on one channel, and actual music is heard only in the background. One channel (left) is completely dead.

I checked for R20 and it is there..? Plz help...

The I2S connections are (I cannot be wrong as the Metronome/OPUS works perfectly fine in the same player) are as follows

SCLK -> DCK
WCLK -> D1
Data -> D2
GND -> GND

Also i have removed the markings at the output, as i'm connecting the DAC to a pre.

Any other changes that i need to make ?

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:55:21 AM(UTC)
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Has it been static-protected while laying around?
snjsk  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:56:31 AM(UTC)
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Yes. It was protected from Static....it was not removed from the package it came in...except when i originally opened to inspect for any shipping damages (It came safe).

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:36:23 PM(UTC)
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Can you try using S/PDIF out from the CD-Pro2 directly to the B32 to see if that works?
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:59:40 PM(UTC)
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SPDIF works - straight out of CD-pro2 into B32...both channel plays fine.

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snjsk  
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:14:49 AM(UTC)
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Cd-Pro2 => Metronome => B32 works fine

Both Channel works fine.

But i'm curious, as to why the vanilla I2S from CD Pro is not working....

Drool

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#13 Posted : Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:32:53 AM(UTC)
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Ah, I thought you were going through the Metronome to the Buffalo before. The problem is that the CDPro2 outputs 48fs, and most modern DACs (WM874x, ES90xx, PCM179x, etc) require at least 64fs PCM data.
snjsk  
#14 Posted : Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:26:22 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the quick responses Brian. Appreciate it..
snjsk  
#15 Posted : Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32:51 AM(UTC)
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I've been having another problem when using I2S. SPDIF works fine with no problem.

When connected via I2S/MEtronome/B32S, there are "crackling" noises when music is played. I noticed that the Digital voltage into the DAC keeps fluctuating between 4.95 and 5.10 volts (LM317 set to 5.10 volts) and the voltage to Metronome drops to 7.3 from the set 7.5 volts. NOTE: The voltage fluctuates only when the CD is playing, else it is stable @ the set voltage.

Scratching my head for two days now...thought it could be a simple cabling/grounding issue @ first.

I actually tried with two Metronome board that i have...same result Brick wall

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snjsk  
#16 Posted : Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:46:10 AM(UTC)
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When the output of Metronome is set @ 48kHz, the voltate seems stable !!. When the output is set @ either 192kHz or 96kHz, the votage fluctuates ?

The "crackle" is still there...but seem to have reducted with Metronome configured @ 48kHz (Still not fully 100% sure about the "crackle" noise...which could still be a different issue)
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#17 Posted : Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:46:19 PM(UTC)
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snjsk wrote:

When the output of Metronome is set @ 48kHz, the voltate seems stable !!. When the output is set @ either 192kHz or 96kHz, the votage fluctuates ?

The "crackle" is still there...but seem to have reducted with Metronome configured @ 48kHz (Still not fully 100% sure about the "crackle" noise...which could still be a different issue)


Just a thought, are you using the volumite? When I first set up the Sabre32S I was getting static along with music. The cure was to remove IC8 when using the volumite.
Hope this helps.
snjsk  
#18 Posted : Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:47:03 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Ichiban. I'm not using a volumite/I2C. I'm using an external preamp (opamp). Further it is not a constant static that i get...just a mild "crackling" sound once in a while when playing music (it is however frequent enough to spoil the listening experience)

I still wonder why the input voltage fluctuates with 96 or 192 kHz (I'm still not sure whether the noise and this voltage issue are same or different issues.
d'oh!

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snjsk  
#19 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 5:19:54 AM(UTC)
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The noise went away after cleaning up the internal wiring. Think this is because one of the wires (from transformer to LCPBS PCB) was very close or touching the chassis earth.

Regarding the other issues with respect to voltage drop based on Metronome setting...was solved after i used an isolation transformer for power. Think it was being caused by some other device running @ home

....and yes the sound...its divine Applause

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