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just to simplify the "equation":
disconnected the ribbon to the s/pdif 4 input board and repeated the whole procedure
guess what?
same result
I seriously think you´ve got to check the fw, or mine is faulty
I know lots of other BIII users out there use this combo as well
wonder what input they´re using?
probably 1, since pc would be their primary source
then they´d never discover it
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Play with the DAC polarity switch?
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glt wrote:Play with the DAC polarity switch? didn´t even know I had one? best Leif
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I will also chime in to say that the selector was not designed to work this way, though several people have apparently made it work. We are, however, willing to help you figure it out.
I am assuming your attitude is good, and that it is just coming off as less so through text.
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Leif, the SPDIF4 board is not in the loop at all when I2S is selected. :)
Try flipping the dip switch that disables SPDIF input.
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Brian Donegan wrote:I will also chime in to say that the selector was not designed to work this way, though several people have apparently made it work. We are, however, willing to help you figure it out.
I am assuming your attitude is good, and that it is just coming off as less so through text. my attitude is excellent and was never meant to be otherwise but when someone tells me something is impossible and I´m experiencing the exact opposite, I have to emphasise that I´m not bullshitting! actually I´ve put a good few hrs into this,but I´m a problem solver and never give up, whatever it takes best Leif
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Turn off SPDIF auto detect: Switch 2 position 5.
Then test again.
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gwikse wrote:Ok, are these the correct settings here?
Dip settings:
SW1:[1-4] Off
SW1:[5-7] On (change this later if stable lock)
SW1:[8] Off
SW2:[1-7] Off
SW2:[8] On
Placid HD set to 5,25V with 600mA CCS connected to B3 with sidecar and sp-dif module piggybacked
B3 Ext_IO VD, gnd and B0 + B1 connected to front panel switch module
Front panel switch module led4 connected to sidecar b (with two 1K resistors in paralell).
Pos 1 on the switch should then be Sp-dif A
Pos 2 -----------------"----------------- B
Pos 3 -----------------"----------------- C
Pos 4 -----------------"----------------- external i2s source
This should work yes?
now I did exactly as you said and the answer in short is NO went back to 3 and all is well it also relocks much faster when switching or changing tracks sry, know it shouldn´t happen but it does best Leif
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christensenleif@msn.com wrote:glt wrote:Play with the DAC polarity switch? didn´t even know I had one? best Leif Sorry. Re-read some of the previous posts. Your problem is "locking" and not "silence". Ignore my suggestion.
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Russ White wrote:Turn off SPDIF auto detect: Switch 2 position 5.
Then test again. It´s off. didn´t have it on will try best Leif
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christensenleif@msn.com wrote:gwikse wrote:Ok, are these the correct settings here?
Dip settings:
SW1:[1-4] Off
SW1:[5-7] On (change this later if stable lock)
SW1:[8] Off
SW2:[1-7] Off
SW2:[8] On
Placid HD set to 5,25V with 600mA CCS connected to B3 with sidecar and sp-dif module piggybacked
B3 Ext_IO VD, gnd and B0 + B1 connected to front panel switch module
Front panel switch module led4 connected to sidecar b (with two 1K resistors in paralell).
Pos 1 on the switch should then be Sp-dif A
Pos 2 -----------------"----------------- B
Pos 3 -----------------"----------------- C
Pos 4 -----------------"----------------- external i2s source
This should work yes?
now I did exactly as you said and the answer in short is NO went back to 3 and all is well it also relocks much faster when switching or changing tracks sry, know it shouldn´t happen but it does best Leif Hello I deleted this post to add the following suggestion: What happen if you disconnect Ext_IO B0 and B1 at the B3 board but still leave the sidecar to be switched from the front panel led connector (pos4)? Edited by user Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:48:32 AM(UTC)
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Leif, what I mean is switch that switch to "on" which will disable autodetect.
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christensenleif@msn.com wrote:Russ White wrote:Turn off SPDIF auto detect: Switch 2 position 5.
Then test again. It´s off. didn´t have it on will try best Leif if the switch is "off" autodetect is on. :) Turn the switch on to turn autodetect off.
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had to change this as I thought ON was ON switched off s/pdif autodetect and I2S on input 4 locks perfect, but I get NO sound from either s/pdif 1 or 2 s/pdif autodetect back to on and I have both s/pdifs, but back to unstable I2S on 4 so back to 3 and stable with both connected s/pdif sry best Leif Edited by user Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:50:49 AM(UTC)
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Exactly - this is covered on page 36 of the integration guide: "S/PDIF auto-detect Normally the ES9018 selects the signal type all by itself. With some very high speed PCM sources, the autodetection mechanism does not work properly. In this case, use the bypass mode." The reason is that the PCM signal present at D4(which would be what is selected at position 4) is sufficiently like SPDIF that the SPDIF detecter thinks it should "unlock" and try to lock onto a spdif signal. To use poition 4 you would need to pull I/O port B4 low (which disables the SPDIF auto-detector). Or as you have done just use a different position for PCM. 3 Should work fine. This has nothing to do with your particular firmware - it is just the way the ES9018 works. ;) Edited by user Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:53:42 AM(UTC)
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guys
I´ll be off for a while as my wife tempts me with filet of deer and an Amarone
have a nice evening
thxs to all for now
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ok so problem solved then very logical too guess people are using 1 then sounds terrific now next will be to make MUX for switching between Teleporter and Exa I´m half finished already again thxs and happy easter best Leif Edited by user Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:59:59 AM(UTC)
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Could switching out the B0 and B1 with a relay at the front panel be an option if using pos 4 and having an expensive front panel ready made? Edited by user Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:08:18 AM(UTC)
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Even easier would just be to trigger a relay or a transistor to pull B4 low when the sidecar is triggered. Turning off SPDIF detection is always advisable when using high sample rate PCM/DSD.
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If I select 1 for Exa will the selector automatically go to s/pdif 1 on next input and then 2?
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