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akione  
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:57:12 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

For some time, I've been working on a Preamp and DAC combined. The idea is to have a system all matched using the same cases from HiFi2000. I've already done a Beta22 headphone amp and now it's the turn of the preamp/DAC.

It has balanced and single-ended inputs as well as the dual mono Opus and has both balanced and single-ended outputs also. I'm hoping to include a balanced headphone output provided by an IVY board, when they become available. The IVY will also act as the SE output buffer.

Although it's not complete yet, this is the current state.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:15:05 AM(UTC)
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Very nice work! Keep us posted!
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#3 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2008 7:55:21 PM(UTC)
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Impressive. For those of us in the planning stages, perhaps you could identify/describe some of the layout.
thanks,
Michael
akione  
#4 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 12:19:02 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, Russ :)

mlw wrote:
Impressive. For those of us in the planning stages, perhaps you could identify/describe some of the layout.
thanks,
Michael


Hi Michael,

No problem.

Top Left Pic: Nearest the back is the USB board, on top of the SP/Dif board. These feed via an Otto (Middle Left)

into a Metronome, which is at the bottom of the front stack. Above the Metronome is a pair of Opus boards, configured Dual Mono.

They feed into a Ballsie (Front Right, Bottom of the stack).

That lot is the Dac section, which is one input into the Balanced Darwins (Rear Right Top x2). The other inputs

are a pair of XLRs and 3 pairs of SE phonos. The outputs from the Balanced Darwins are then fed to a Balanced Joshua Tree (Mid Right)

and it's outputs will go to the IVY ( will be fitted mid stack front Right, above Ballsie). The SE outputs from the IVY will go

to a Darwin ( Bottom of Rear Right stack) and feed 3 pairs of SE outputs. The Balanced outputs from the IVY will be fed to

an Otto (Front Right, Top), which will divert the Balanced outputs to either a pair of XLRs on the Back Panel, or a 4-pin XLR

on the Front Panel, for Balanced headphones. This will be switched from the Back Panel.

Note: The Darwins are all partially built and I've used different connectors.

I've also bypassed (most of) the power supply section of the JT, as I have a 5v supply available.

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akione  
#5 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 12:32:30 AM(UTC)
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Following on ........

In the Power Supply, the Left hand side is the usual TP supplies, giving 2 x 7.5v from 1 LCDPS and 15v-0v-15v from 1 LCBPS.

There's also a little 5v supply I made up on a bit of Veroboard.

On the Right is the Transformer for my Beta22 headphone amp.

The mains comes in through a filter and goes to 2 relays, 1 of which controls the Beta22 transformer and the other controls the

transformers for everything else. All the transformers are individually fused. The Board Bottom Right, allows me to use a momentary

switch to turn everything on (except the Beta22) from the preamp front panel.

Most of this is fed to a 15-way D plug on the back, to link into the preamp. The Beta22 has its own socket and lead.


The Back panels (need cleaning Shhh ) :



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#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:52:51 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, that is helpful.
Michael
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 8, 2008 5:55:48 AM(UTC)
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Just thought I'd add a 'latest' pic. I've been doing the front panel and wiring ..........

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#8 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:46:41 AM(UTC)
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Hello Akione,
where do you by your RCA jacks. They look nice.
akione  
#9 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:56:42 AM(UTC)
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flozano wrote:
Hello Akione,
where do you by your RCA jacks. They look nice.


Hi flozano,

I get them from http://www.rapidonline.com, here in the UK.

They are 'professional' ones with Teflon insulators and Gold plating.

I chose those particular ones as they were clearance stock, being non-rohs.

They only had black vertical, though, so I painted over the black identifier

ring with red enamel paint for the right channel sockets Whistle

It was a big saving though, over full price. :)
akione  
#10 Posted : Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:34:55 AM(UTC)
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Just thought I would update this thread as I've changed one or two things.


I've now replaced the Ballsie with an IVY. First I tried using IVY on the output with the Ballsie

on the output of the Opus, but I found that I preferred the sound without the Ballsie.

I put 18 Ohm precision resistors in-line for load-balancing.

The DAC now feeds directly into the balanced Darwin and the only gain stage (at the moment :) )

is the IVY on the output, which feeds to a S/E Darwin and an Otto, providing balanced output to

the sockets on the back and the Balanced Headphones. The sound is superb on my balanced HD580's.


I'm currently working on a modification to the S/Ended section. Because I'm using the IVY, now,

I think there might be a problem with input impedance, so I've decided to build what I call 'YVI' :)

It's a backwards IVY. The S/E inputs feed into the dual op-amp, which is configured as a voltage follower,

to give me a high input impedance. The output from this is fed to the input of the 2 x THS4130's,

which convert the S/Ended inputs to balanced. I've used the THS4130 for this as it should allow me

to 'mute' the S/E input stage, when not in use, by utilising the pd pin.

More updates as they happen. :)
akione  
#11 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2008 1:40:29 PM(UTC)
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Well, I've decided to call this one finished. :d/


I did a little back-pedaling wrt the input buffer idea. I tried 3 different S/E sources and they were all fine without a buffer.

I still have the 'YVI', though should it prove necessary to add it in the future. I ended up, though, tweaking the gain of the IVY

a little. I finally settled on 1.8k input and 3.01k feedback resistors with 330pF filter caps. I thought it sounded best with this

combination. The values were chosen because they were what I had in 0.1% :) I also ended up with 18 Ohm 0.1% load-balancing resistors.

I had to balance the requirements as a headphone amp with those of the balanced outputs, so had to be a little bit careful.

I also made another change - I decided to put the Headphone/Balanced switch on the front instead of the back.

For this I used a little LED light-pipe momentary switch, which I made a little controller for. I think it looks cool :).


Anyway, I think it sounds superb. I've tried several different S/E headphone amps (including my Stax 2050's and Beta22) and have

concluded that the IVY driving the HD580's balanced is the best of the lot ! I even built a balanced (4 board) Jisbo buffer to see

if I could improve it, but it sounded virtually identical to the output direct from the IVY. I suppose with low impedance 'phones

it might be a different story.


So, a big 'THANK YOU' to Russ and Brian, for producing such excellent kit and a special thank you to Brian for 'Services beyond the

Call of Duty' :) .


It's now time to move on to the other components of my DIY Hi-Fi; I intend to build a matching 'Music' PC, a sort of Squeezebox clone

and a matching Power Amp next. ( I'm waiting for the Sympatico, Russ :) ).


Here's a final pic of the finished box, entertaining me .....



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Russ White  
#12 Posted : Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:14:48 PM(UTC)
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Sweeeeet!!!! Excellent work! I am very proud to have our stuff in that nice project!

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers!
Russ
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